Surviving Off Off-Grid: Chapter 1 - Defining Terms
FIRST GO READ THE INTRODUCTION
Defining Terms
Words Mean Things
Advanced communication, primarily the use of words, is one of the most important things that separate man from the lower animals. Man is able to use a multitude of creative and descriptive words. This wonderful ability of communicative speech is a gift of God to aid us in our understanding and our living. Words, and the proper use of them, allow us to come to agreement, or to understand where we differ, and words allow us to perceive how very important our agreements or differences may be. It is said that the only hope we have of ever coming to agreement with one another is if we share the same information and if we understand that information in similar ways. Words allow us to identify concepts, thoughts, and ideas, and words allow us to communicate our understanding of those things to one another. Even the word “communication” has “commune” as its root, because we use words to commune with one another and with our God. Discussion is the primary form of communion between man and man, and Prayer is the primary form of communion between man and his God. Communion requires communication, and communication requires that we have some agreement and understanding as to the meaning of the words we choose to use.
I would hope that any reasonably intelligent, historically knowledgeable, and fair reader would know that this understanding of the freedom of speech is completely at odds with (it is, in fact, opposite of) what the framers of the U.S. Constitution had in mind. This is Orwellian doublespeak at its pinnacle. Every tyrant in history has used necessity as a primary argument for the abridgment of freedoms, and it was clearly expected and understood by the founders that freedom of speech was critical in restricting the ability for tyrants to use necessity to crush freedom. The attempt by this journalist is to give political and social “cover” for reactionary elements who hate and want to control and limit true freedoms. I use this as an example because this is certainly a case of words being used to mean the opposite of what they actually were intended to mean. And in this case, the words of reactionary tyrants will lead to actions, and those actions will lead to very real infringements and the eradication of true freedom. Words do mean things.
So…
What is the probability that person number two and person number one are going to be able to meet at the right place at the right time? Person number two shows up several hours late in the alley behind one of several brown houses on
This all goes to illustrate the importance of defining words, and it explains why much of my teaching and ministry time is spent in that important endeavor.
Ok, so why all the emphasis on defining words? Because the first word in the title of this book is SURVIVAL – a word that can have drastically different meanings to different people. During times of stress and trouble, when survivalism grows and thrives, the importance of communicating what we mean by such an important word is multiplied. In attempting to communicate, it is not so critical that our use of a word follows accepted or cultural norms, as it is that we share the same definitions. So long as we agree on the terms, we can communicate. If we share the same definitions, then we are able to commune in the arena of ideas and we are able to discourse more honestly about the how and the why of living.
Now, I must say here as an aside that this book and the ideas in it are very challenging to read, and they are very challenging to write. First, they are challenging to read because they run so contrary to the accepted thinking and the presuppositions of the day. Second, they are difficult to write for a few reasons. I want to address those reasons here so that the reader will have fair warning and an understanding as the challenges I have faced in writing this book.
I am a committed Christian (and YES, I understand that the word “Christian” is one of those words that no longer has any real descriptive meaning or definitive power, and it is one which must be properly defined. I have done so elsewhere at great length, but do not have the space to do so here), and I understand many of those who need the practical information found later in this book, and who want to learn more about Off Off-Grid living, who are not Christians. I have been challenged by the impossibility of trying to present my philosophy if I were to do so while also removing the foundation behind 100% of that philosophy. It cannot be done, at least not by me. I have been asked “Who is your intended audience?”, and I can honestly answer “Everyone”. I have not made the assumption that anyone who reads this is already a true Christian, but I have absolutely properly situated my whole philosophy and worldview on my understanding of what Christianity is and what it requires. It is, of course, not my intention to exclude anyone. Facts and truth are, in and of themselves, exclusive enough. In fact, I have determined that in order to be fair, I must be willing to insult everyone equally, and I include modern “christians” and modern “christianity” (which I reject wholly and not in part) in my condemnation of the world and the current world system. I know that this book could be written from several different angles. It could be written as a secular book, and the advice and counsel would be just as valuable (though temporal). It could be written from a Christian perspective with all separatist convictions tempered or removed, and I believe it would still have value. In fact, if I were willing to do these things, it would probably sell more copies and make more money. But I have rejected that counsel. The facts in the book are true whether you reject or accept my overt and sometimes offensive Christian Agrarian Separatism. I would have been a traitor to my conscience and a rebel to my convictions if I had tempered the book at all. I ask, therefore, that the reader simply read this book as a dissertation (and dispensation) of a new (actually old) philosophy and worldview, and that the reader glean what he or she can. In my life I have read dozens of books (as Jimmy Buffet would say “about heroes and crooks”) which describe and even proselytize for other religions and philosophies. I believe my God wants me to fairly examine and judge His claims, and I felt it necessary to do so by reading many philosophies and religious opinions with which I do not agree. I merely ask that you read the material fairly and openly, and judge it for what it is.
SURVIVAL
The dictionary defines the word survive as “to remain alive after the death of someone, the cessation of something, or the occurrence of some event”. Further, it is to “continue in existence or use”, to “get along or remain healthy, happy, and unaffected in spite of some occurrence; to live through affliction, adversity, or misery”.
At its very root, to survive is to live through or beyond some thing or occurrence. This definition, though technically proper, is entirely too bare and empty for our purposes. It is stripped of any spiritual truth, or any philosophy or context of living. To merely survive in a life that is remarkably short and fleeting, is hardly a philosophy worth embracing. Sadly, the modern concept of “survival” is wholly based on this empty philosophy. When you read of survivalism or survival today, it generally has this overall meaning – to live no matter what the cost.
Now, if we say that our philosophy is to live no - matter what the cost - then we must conclude that that cost may include our immortal soul and our eternal happiness. Would it ever be a good deal to trade our immortal soul and our eternal happiness for temporal and fleeting survival? Does anyone truly survive this carnal world? No, they do not. To anyone who values law and morality, and particularly to the Christian, this definition of survival is inadequate and even dangerous. So you see, if I were to begin to write or teach without properly defining what I mean by survival, I would do you a disservice, and I would feed into some scary and dangerous concepts that really have no place in the life and philosophy of right thinking people.
So I have chosen here to give you a working definition of what I mean when I speak and write of survival and survivalism. So long as we both are clear that this is what I mean when I use these words, then we are able to proceed in our discourse with understanding.
Survive - To persevere. To do all that is within my power to persist in my Christian duty, to maintain my Christian witness, to protect and defend all of my human and Christian obligations, and to continue to live obediently as long as God chooses to sustain my life and ministry. To stand.
My goal is not merely to continue to live at all costs despite the situation or danger that exists around me. Life is transient and passes so very quickly. My goal is to persist in my duties, to continue in obedience, and to live my life in such a way that, by the grace, mercy, and sustenance of God, I am able to stand and resist the dangers and follies of the world, the temptations of the flesh, and the wiles of the devil. My goal is to continue dutifully at my station, to stand against the tyranny of absorption and syncretism with the world, and to hold fast to the old and narrow paths wherein is found the good and righteous way. My way is not the way of the world, and I do not value cohesion and intercourse with any system which is contrary to the direct statements of my God. Were I to live for a thousand years in the way the world has defined as acceptable, I will have failed to truly survive. Were I to perfectly avoid all danger, peril, and consequence, and in doing so glorify the Prince of this World and his temporal and earthly reign, I will have failed to truly survive. I cannot say that I want to survive at all costs. I cannot say that “pulling through” is worth betraying my Master. I cannot believe that looking, dressing, and acting like the world is worth the evil that accompanies that mentality. I wish to survive to the Glory of God, regardless of what men say. The Bible says, that “whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it” (Luke
If we will survive, we must lose our lives. What can this mean?
There is a way of living life that is in perfect harmony with a world that is at war with the God of Creation, and there is a carnal life which loves the world, embraces its culture, pursues its goals, and does its bidding. The carnal life of fulfilling temporal lusts and embracing all creature comforts must be lost if we are to truly survive. The carnal man must die if we are to survive as spiritual beings. “There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death” (Pro
The way or philosophy of living that you find defined in this book may seem ancient or anachronistic, but it is a way that has been proven through the centuries. In every era or region where men and women lived simply according to the principles of God, righteousness and holiness have thrived, and evil has had no foothold. As the Bible says, in order to return to true Godliness and a truly Biblical way of living, we must return to the old paths and the old ways. You will find this principle verse repeated in all my writings wherever you find them:
This understanding is critical in our understanding of right living and of survival. Repentance is the God-given ability to understand that our current path and trajectory is wrong and perilous and will lead to disaster if we continue in it. Repentance is turning from that wicked way and returning to a way trod only by a few brave and hardy souls. The prophets of worldliness, urbanism, and industrialism have every interest in keeping consumers (lemmings) on the path that at its end must leadeth to destruction. The prophets of industrialism and consumption have every interest in defaming and rejecting any call to repentance of spirit and of life. The prophets of today have a vested interest in teaching people that separation is of the heart only, and that holy and Godly living is only an internal precept and not an actual calling. I understand this, and so should you. I understand that our call to true survival will not ever be popular, and few will ever heed it. But it is a holy calling nonetheless, and it is our duty to proclaim it.
In summation, when God took His people from
OFF-GRID and OFF OFF-GRID
I hope that by now you have noticed that the title of this book is a call to OFF OFF-GRID Living. This was not an error in typesetting. You have all heard of living Off-Grid, but most of you will have never heard of living OFF Off-Grid. It is necessary now that I define the two phrases, and differentiate between the two.
Off-Grid Living
If you went up to the average person and you said, “I live off-grid”, the reply would likely be something like this… “Oh, that’s interesting, how do you get your power, from a generator?From solar power? From wind power?” You see, off-grid living today implies being separated from the industrial power grid unto a separate or independent power grid that supplies all the same perceived benefits and “necessities”, only (it is assumed) cheaper and more sustainably. Most people, then, do not even begin to consider that the so-called “necessities” of modern living are not actually necessary at all. I talk to hundreds of people who are considering separating from the modern world and moving off-grid. Their first impulse is always to ask themselves “how do I do all or most of the things I do now without being attached to the power grid?” But our philosophy requires that we look at every single assumption and question it. Every technology must be examined to see if, in the long run and with all things considered, this technology actually benefits us in the process of daily obedient living. Does this technology help or hurt our overall plan of being independent and separate from the world? Does this technology lock us into some necessary and continued adherence to the industrial system? Is it sustainable? These things are not usually ever addressed or questioned, even by people who see the grid system for what it is and who desire to separate from it. For this reason, I have called the “off-grid” system just a step-child or an offspring of the grid system.
Some people today do indeed live “off-grid”, but they do not recognize that they are just one step removed from the grid. They have, in effect, created a separate grid system which, admittedly, makes them a single step more sustainable than the world, but in the long run is just a faint copy (a copy of a copy) of the grid system from which they have endeavored to separate. Much of the meat of this argument will be fleshed out during the remainder of the book, but it is important for our purpose here that we identify a difference between “off-grid” and “off off-grid”.
Off Off-Grid Living
By contrast, the Off Off-Grid system is the system that is the most sustainable, the most separate, and is closest to the ideal way of living as portrayed for us in the scripture. By “Off Off-Grid” we mean that we have not just taken a single symbolic step away from the industrial/urban system by creating our own grid system with which to replace it. Off Off-Grid means that we are moving towards a purely God-reliant, separated, survival life. In the Off Off-Grid system, we have eschewed and rejected the accepted maxims of industrialism and urbanism, and we actually dare to question whether the perpetual 72 degree myth and the lies of “time saving” is beneficial to our long-term survival and happiness. We actually dare to question whether some very modern conveniences are really necessary. We actually dare to ask if we, as a people, are better off and more holy and spiritual since we have determined that carnal comfort is critical to our well being and happiness.
I know it is common, as I mentioned in the introduction, for ignorant worldlings to have an “all or nothing” mentality, which means that if we use any technology at all (such as a screwdriver, or a pie plate) then we are hypocrites. I know that I cursorily handled the “hypocrisy” charge in the introduction, but since it is such a prevalent charge, I want to take the time here to publicly respond to it and to expand on my comments.
Agrarianism and Technology
I have written about this before in many venues and at great length, but we must emphasize that we are not "anti-technology". There is a really sick kind of institutional (colonized) blindness that assumes (whether purposely or not is always the interesting question) that any limits put on the use of technology is automatically hypocritical. Let me explain this in the same illogical steps used and followed by most people:
Step 1: "Oh, you are an 'Agrarian'... like the Amish. That's interesting."
Step 2: "Well why are you on the Internet, and why do you have a truck?" (Note: if you are not on the Internet, or you do not have a truck they will say, “Why do you use store bought tools or frying pans –which are all technology”? The assumption is that anyone who dares question or reject ANY technology, is automatically a hypocrite and should be rejected).
Step 3: "If you are going to preach that all technology is evil, then you should get rid of all these things"
So, according to the modernist, if you reject a home phone and grid electricity because you do not want to allow some ungodly company to wreck your land and destroy the view by running poles and lines on your property, then you are a hypocrite and you must also reject frying pans and matches. Since any simple machine or tool can be considered technology, and since the worldling wrongly assumes that you reject all technology, then you are automatically a hypocrite even if the only technology you use is a stone wheel to crush walnuts. To most modern world-lovers ALL technology must be embraced without question. To the modern world, Industrialism, technology, and advancements are a complete and inviolable package, and with every toothbrush you must also warmly receive bluetooth technology. Regardless of the criteria you use, or the philosophy behind your thoughts in rejecting some so-called "advanced" time-saving gadgets (a lie if ever there was one), and accepting some others, you must realize that to the modernist industrial colonized mind you are a hypocrite if you do anything more than stand naked and starving in a cave, defecating on yourself until you die. There is no middle ground and no gray area. You must accept technology as morally neutral and embrace every bit of it, or you must reject every single bit of it without prejudice. Of course if anyone really believed this false dialectic it would prove every human ever born to be a hypocrite.
This is a really stupid idea, I know, but that is what the modern worldling thinks of any attempt at rejecting modernism. Even those who admire the simple life or who think it quaint and interesting will conclude (whether openly or privately, whether consciously or unconsciously) that the plain and simple separatist is really a quaint and simple little hypocrite. When they accuse us of hypocrisy, it is because they do not know what we believe (nor do most of them really care). The worldling accuses the separatist of hypocrisy, because if they do not, then they are faced with examining all the lies they have believed, and all the truths they must avoid at all costs. The principle truth that their worldview requires that they never, ever consider about themselves is this:
1 John
The colonized mind must defend this world and its ways because it loves the world. That is a fact. It is a sad and scary fact, but it is a fact. The world will not listen to your reasoning as to why you have rationally and reasonably come to reject their worldview. They must not listen, because if they do - they will come face to face with their primary love... their love of the world. They must embrace this world and never for a minute weaken their grasp on it, because it is all they have. Never mind that:
a.) their culture is evidently crumbling around them.
b.) with all their time and labor-saving devices, they must work harder with less (in real terms) to show for it. Where a man used to be able to work to support his whole family, now, most two-earner families must utilize mountains of debt in order to maintain a worse standard of living. Families suffer, marriages are temporary, children reject God (or embrace a fake 'god' of their own mind and creation), and the worldling can't stop for a moment on the treadmill of this worldly life or they will be crushed under the weight of the cost of their lusts.
c.) their religion is designed to fit neatly into their worldview. It is rubber and flexible and doesn't for a minute challenge or confront the world that it upholds so wonderfully. In fact, modern "christianity" is the merely the religious arm of the industrial world; it is a fully owned subsidiary of the world system that hates Jesus Christ (Luke
Religion (at least modern plastic religion) is indeed the opiate of the masses, and for those who are fully and completely brainwashed and colonized by the industrial religious cult, any defection from complete and idolatrous worship of technology and the industrial Leviathan is treason of the highest order.
Hypocrisy... So just who is the hypocrite? Let’s see…
Do our accusers embrace ALL technology without question? Of course not. Go to your accuser and ask them if there is any technology that they have rejected. Does your secular humanist have every gadget out there and does he accept all new technology without question? If not, why not? Has your modernist “christian” already received a Digital Angel personal tracking microchip? Then ask them if they will allow such a chip to be put into their right hand to be used for monetary transactions, and if they do not already have one of these, ask them “why not?” These tracking chips are already available and they have been for many years!
HYPOCRISY!
I saw a chef on a television show one time that used a hand whisk to beat eggs. Why would he use a hand whisk when beautiful and expensive electric egg-beaters are available to enable him to save time? The chef said that he used the hand whisk because it made the eggs lighter and fluffier and allowed him to have better control of the texture of the final product. Hmmmm... what can we determine from such thinking? Is it hypocrisy for someone to actually examine each technology and decide on a case by case basis if that technology is wise and good for the situation or the job? Would any reasonable person accept every technology just because it is technology and not examine the claims made by that technology? Would anyone really dare accuse a television chef of hypocrisy for refusing to use an electric egg-beater?
So, let’s get this straight... virtually every intelligent and sentient being makes value decisions about their use of different technologies and how they fit into their particular worldview, and how those things are used in the process of work. This is a fact. If other men are free to make value decisions (according to their worldview) in the technologies they embrace and accept, why then are we attacked for the doing the same thing?
I will tell you the answer…
We are NOT attacked because of the technologies we choose to reject or accept. We are attacked because the philosophy behind our choices condemns and exposes the lies of industrialism and exposes the modernist’s love of the world. When some folks hear that we do not have grid electricity, in their consciences they hear:
YOU ARE BAD AND WICKED AND EVIL AND YOU LOVE THE WORLD
Now, if this were not true, they would not care and would not suffer much over it; but they know that it usually IS true, and that is what they are really defensive about. People are defensive because they feel they are being attacked, but since we have attacked no one, it must be the conscience of the modernist that is attacking him.
There is a second issue at play here, and I want to address it here while we are defining terms. The second reason that modernists reject the concept of Off-Grid (and especially Off Off-Grid Living) is that they have allowed their minds to be bifurcated and fragmented (more on that in the next chapter). In addition to the assumption that all technology must be good (or at the least morally neutral), the worldling is taught from a very young age that technology saves time and effort and creates wealth and leisure time, which must be good.
During a speaking trip up north several years ago I was asked some questions about Agrarianism, and these questions are actually pretty common today. The natural response by the colonized mind when confronted with Agrarianism as a philosophy is to question why anyone wouldn't accept technology as good, beneficial and acceptable. People will ask, "So, am I supposed to get rid of my cell phone and my computer?” Others will say, "God gave us a mind. If we use our minds to create time-saving technologies aren't we just doing what we're supposed to be doing?”
There are some automatic pre-suppositions that create and support these questions or positions. The pre-suppositions are these:
1. As we have mentioned, the Agrarians are anti-technology, or reject all technology.2. Therefore, as I have mentioned, if an Agrarian uses any technology, then he is a hypocrite.
3. Because technology is good or at the least morally neutral, then any use of technology must also be morally neutral; therefore if technology can be used for things that are automatically considered good, then… Technology is good.
4. "Saving time" is automatically good, regardless of the results or the reality of whether or not real time was “saved” or not.
5. Therefore if the human mind is capable of devising it, and it can be marketed as time-saving, efficient, or necessary, then it should be accepted without question.
There is a corollary to these false assumptions – another maxim of modern society. The corollary is this: If the corporate human mind can rationalize something as good, then it is good for all individual humans without question.
1. As we have previously shown, Agrarians are not anti-technology, nor do we reject all technology. A frying pan is technology; a plow is technology; a shovel is technology. We all use technology and Agrarians do not at all universally reject technology. What we reject is the presupposition that all technology is good or at the least "morally neutral". Because we reject (or are moving away from) some technologies as harmful to ourselves, our families, our way of life and our worldview, does not make us anti-technology.
2. The use of technology by a separatist Agrarian does not constitute hypocrisy.
a.) It's intended use is positive towards our lives and worldview, and is conducive to our Christian survival, success, and happiness.
b.) The reasons and logic used to determine that a thing is "good" or not is true and Biblical. We do not want to produce "false positives", by assuming that a thing is good just because it enables some result or action that is presupposed to be good.
c.) The results promised are actually the results received.
4. Saving "time" is not always “good”. In fact, in very real terms, there is no such thing as saving time. Time may be reallocated, but never “saved”.
The argument for saving "time" has become an end in itself. No one is willing to ask the scary question "save time for what?", or “what is the cost?” Are our lives really more spiritually full and complete now that we are surrounded by "time-saving" devices that must be served by us, no matter the cost? At the root of this deception is the question, "What are we here for?" If God put me here to be perfected as I am digging post holes and planting a garden and building fences, am I really well served to be able to do all of that in ¼ of the time with machines that do the job for me, separating me from the lessons God intends for me to learn, and leaving me to serve the machines and to spend more time on spiritually and mentally debilitating pursuits?
5. Just because the human mind is capable of devising it, and it can be marketed as time-saving, efficient, or necessary, does not mean it should be automatically accepted.
“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jer. 17:9)
“For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be” (
It seems to me it would be wise to automatically question whatever the world tells us is the way to do things. It seems to me that questioning worldly wisdom ought to be a default for those who seek to live life by a higher wisdom. It seems to me that I ought to automatically question something when my carnal flesh is naturally inclined to it.
ADDICTION
Addiction (Noun): the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma.
It is interesting to note that in virtually every addiction, the addict must eventually become a salesman for the addiction (or of the addictive product) so that he can afford to feed the addiction. The dope smoker or the crack addict must eventually sell dope or sell crack in order to make enough money to feed his addiction. Likewise those who become addicted to the world and its time-saving and leisure devices must eventually become spokesmen and defenders of the ideas that support the sale and perpetuation of the addiction. There is a scary fact here that everyone is too frightened to examine too closely:
Most of the people who defend worldly living are completely and utterly supported by that system. As I said before, they are un-sustainable as people, and they cannot live outside of that system. Therefore the thought of the destruction of that system necessarily means that they would have to separate from it or perish. Herein lies the conflict, and here is why this will be a very emotional and confrontational area of your life if you pursue separating from worldliness at any level. Revolution is warfare. This is the revolution, and welcome to it.
A “rebellion” is an attempt by unauthorized and unlawful means to overthrow and replace a lawful system of authority or governance.
The word “revolution” has as its root the term “revolve” or to turn over or around. A revolution is the overthrow or removal of an unauthorized or unlawful form of authority or governance, or a usurper government, with an authorized and lawful one. When an illegitimate power is overthrown by those with legitimate power you have a revolution. When a people who have been brainwashed since birth, forcefully colonized, and illegitimately ruled by a colonial power, throw off the shackles of that colonial power, it is properly called a revolution.
I have told you that the majority of all people alive in the world today have “colonized minds”. The decolonization process is painful and difficult, but it takes nothing short of a revolution to overthrow the illegitimate system that currently rules over the colonized mind and heart. The next chapter is about this wonderful and needful revolution.

14 Comments:
this is really good. there are a couple grammatical things that I'll email you. I'm still digesting the content, so any real suggestions(if i have any) will be a bit in coming.
RP
Have you ever thought about adding a paragraph about the people that buy these "time saving" devices because it is what everyone else is doing? There is a segment of the population that does not put as much real thought into what they do and why they do it. They just look out their windows at their neighbor or turn on their TVs to find out what they need to buy next.
Thanks for covering in one place a good many important and difficult thoughts. Thanks especially for the ties to Scripture.
These may well have been pointed out, but just in case:
"True survival, then, must presuppose that Godly men must go a different way
then (should be "than," I think)
the way of the world."
"They must not listen, because if they do - they will come face to face with their primary love... their love of the world."
I think normally commas would be used for the emdash and ellipsis, but it's probably okay if you like the effect.
"As we traveled faster, the world expanded and there
was (should be "were," I think)
more places to travel.
Some lists (outline sections) begin with upper case, some don't. I know it's picky, but it might be good to choose consistently.
I understand the exageration is intended, but my preference would be to leave out the "defecating on yourself" part.
Kent
Hey bro,
enjoyed our trip to Abilene today, and getting a chance to read this chapter along the way....looking forward to the "Revolution".
Billy Bob
I haven't had a chance to read this yet...but I hope to soon. I'll be back after I do. Thanks for posting it.
-Stewart
Michael,
I think this is a great foundational chapter.
Paragraph 1: Did you intentionally capitalize the word "Prayer"?
Survival Section - Paragraph 3: "Now, if we say that our philosophy is to live no - matter what the cost - then...... " The dash between "no" and "matter" seems to be oddly placed.
Paragraph below Jer. 6:16: The words "must leadeth" appear awkward since you are not quoting scripture there.
Agrarian and Technology section - 1(c): "is the merely the" Too many "the's"
Section 3(a): "It's" should be "its"
Section 4: "As we traveled faster, the world expanded and there was more places to travel." Should be were, not was
General Note: You reference scripture proof texts in some areas but not others where you mention biblical principles/concepts. Your audience may not realize from where some of your foundational concepts originate and may benefit from additional scriptural proof texts.
Thank you very much.
Susan
This chapter is good. I really like how the foundation is being laid one piece at a time. The arguments are sound and this is turning into the first time I've seen everything tied together in one place. I'm really looking forward to where this book is going.
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A couple possible edits:
1. "He understands the words in a way that ought to be clear and apparent to an intelligent and aware typical listener."
Change: "and aware typical listener" didn't read quite right for me. Maybe drop one of the words or rephrase?
2. "Oh, that’s interesting, how do you get your power, from a generator?From"
Change: Need an extra space between "generator?" and "From"
3. I agree with Kent that the "defecating on yourself" could be left out. As a side note, and something that may worth mentioning in that section...the debate over abortion is similar in some ways to the debate over Off Off-Grid. The people who are in favor of abortion wouldn't even exist if their parents had favored their current point of view. Hence, they wouldn't even be able to make the argument. Likewise, the people who argue against living the way their great great grandparents lived wouldn't be here today without their grandparents more agrarian lifestyle.
4. Another interesting side story - At work I sometimes take a walk on my lunch hour but my lunch hour varies from day to day. More specifically, the time I take my walk during my lunch hour varies as well. There is someone who runs on the same trail that I walk. One time he asked me what time it was and I told him the time I left the building. From that day forward if I would see him again he would often make a comment like, "I must be leaving [the trail] early today." or "It must be about "x" time. To which I would reply, no it is a different time today. He was the one being consistent but he assumed I was the one he could measure his time off of (since he wasn't wearing a watch). That struck me as quite profound on many levels. It is very easy for the carnal mind to assume the "world" is consistent and that we can compare ourselves to its "consistency" of ways/ideas. In reality, as you mentioned in the chapter, we should question everything the carnal man thinks is good because our hearts are naturally evil. The man on the trail should have questioned the assumption that I was on a consistent timeframe, especially after several proofs that I wasn't.
5. "In fact, most time-saving devices actually cumulatively require more money (which takes time to earn or produce), more other devices or services (such as electricity, which requires money, which requires work), or simply shift the time requirement elsewhere."
Change: The content of this sentence is excellent but it is a little complicated to read. I can't put my finger on a specific change that will help but if there is any way to simplify it a bit it may help. I was initially tripped up on the "more other devices or services" right after the content in parentheses.
Keep up the good work!
-Stewart
Thanks for the chapter. I am becoming convinced that what most readers want is not a weekly book chapter, but daily ranch updates. The book chapters take too much thought and commitment. OK rant is over.
I read Chapter 1 with interest, initially I thought it was too long, but then I realized that you needed to cover a lot of basics, to reach as wide an audience as possible. The definitions also are needed. And I was glad to see your unapologetic statement of beliefs as the foundation of the ideas presented. The book would loose all creditibility if you tried to ameliorate your basic premises and beliefs. Also dishonest.
The following are Suggestions. Consider making;
"I have been challenged by the impossibility of trying to present my philosophy if I were to do so while also removing the foundation behind 100% of that philosophy. It cannot be done, at least not by me."
To:
"It is impossible to present my philosophy of living removed from the foundation of that philosophy.
"I wish to survive to the Glory of God, regardless of what men say.", should be in bold, underlined, italic, and mabe 14 point type!
Some of your section headings are all caps, others are not. Shouldn't they be consisten one way of the t'other?
"Survival is the process of trying to live obediently no matter what giants seem to be in the land" should be underlined, bold, and italics.
"the perpetual 72 degree myth" was a new idea to me; I'm not sure you should change it, but thought you'd like to know.
Hope this helps,
William
I found that this part was somewhat difficult to read. It seemed out of order and longer than it needed to be. It would be beneficial to see a rough outline. The defining terms section includes too much of the, "words mean things" perspective. Many people may just say, yeah....they do. In other words, what you are trying to convey in this book, I think, is that off-grid living is Christianity. It is physical/spiritual, temporal/eternal and to understand what you are going to say in this book, a few terms must be defined, such as Christian, Survival, Off-Grid, etc...
The example that you gave on the radio program seems like over kill. It works in a blog or off the cuff, but anyone who is going to pick up this book, will be able to grasp that words mean things.
The defining terms chapter seems like an introduction and the introduction seems like an overview of the entire book. A possible outline might be A. introduction(defining terms and purpose of the book) B. Tower of Babel C. Roman Empire D. Russian Revolution E. Great Depression F. Our modern dilema E. Maybe your story.
What needs to be hammered home is that people must learn how to provide for themselves. It is God's way and history and common sense are witnesses to this truth.
It is true that people are stupid for not understanding all this but is the purpose of the book intended to help them or convince them that they are stupid. Do you want a person who has read this book to say, "here read this book it has opened my eyes and given me a greater understanding of God and his ways and it is obvious, my ways are stupid"? Or do you want them to say, "if you don't agree with this guy your stupid"?
Out of time again....
Kris
I liked the comments you made on the lack of questioning of the character and state of mind that produces various technologies. That seems like one part of the fragmentation of the mind. The world is entirely locked into a pattern of inventions to conquer and kill, which looks so much like the story of Cain and Able. At the level of nations or individuals it's really no different. Countries can flex their muscles with nukes or the Gordon Geckos of the business world can crush the competition. I look forward to your thoughts in the next chapter on the fragmentation and bifurcation of the mind. Please write as much of that as you can.
Larry
While reading I was struck with the thought that Jesus Christ is called the "Word" of God. What better attack by the enemy than to change the meaning of words. Change the meaning of words, and you cannot seek THE WORD, because the book that holds the information about Him, cannot be understood.
I don't know.....just a thought.
Last paragraph under the definition of the word Survival.
In summation, when God took His people from Egypt (a type of slavery to worldliness and wordly wisdom),
'wordly' should be 'worldly'
Michael,
Sorry I'm late with my comments. I was out of touch with computers for about a week when this was posted. I only have a few small changes and they may have been already mentioned, but here goes anyway.
"Now, I must say here as an aside that this book and the ideas in it are very challenging to read, and they are very challenging to write. First, they are challenging to read because they run so contrary to the accepted thinking and the presuppositions of the day. Second, they are difficult to write for a few reasons. I want to address those reasons here so that the reader will have fair warning and an understanding as the challenges I have faced in writing this book."
Last sentence should be: I want to address those reasons here so that the reader will have fair warning and an understanding of the challenges...
I'm in favor of losing the defecating on yourself phrase too.
c.) their religion is designed to fit neatly into their worldview. It is rubber and flexible and doesn't for a minute challenge or confront the world that it upholds so wonderfully. In fact, modern "christianity" is the merely the religious arm of the industrial world;
The last sentence should read: In fact, modern "christianity" is merely the…
So, let’s get this straight... virtually every intelligent and sentient being makes value decisions about their use of different technologies and how they fit into their particular worldview, and how those things are used in the process of work. This is a fact. If other men are free to make value decisions (according to their worldview) in the technologies they embrace and accept, why then are we attacked for the doing the same thing?
Last sentence: If other men are free to make value decisions (according to their worldview)about the technologies they embrace and accept, why then are we attacked for the doing the same thing?
In the -4. Saving "time" is not always “good”- paragraph there is a sentence where the tenses don’t match up. As we traveled faster, the world expanded and there were more places to travel.
In the - By rejecting the concept of "time-saving"- paragraph the last sentence: Those are the real questions, and these types of questions we are begged not to ask by the prophets of the industrial age. It sounds smoother to me to say: Those are the real questions, and we are begged not to ask these types of questions by the prophets of the industrial age.
It seems to me it would be wise to automatically question whatever the world tells us is the way to do things. It seems to me that questioning worldly wisdom ought to be the default for those who seek to live life by a higher wisdom.
I also would like to add that I found it much easier to make corrections by opening another browser and getting the original post up so I could copy out the paragraphs or sentences I was referring to and then paste them into a word document and make my changes. That way I was able to use the bold and underline and font color buttons. After I was done I just highlighted and copied and pasted my whole word document into the comment box. When you show the original post in the comments section it doesn’t put any spaces or breaks between paragraphs and it is really hard to find your way around such a long page of words.
Hope you keep posting chapters or at least email them to the people who are commenting.
Al
You could use an axe as an example of technology. If you wanted to prove just how old it is.
2Kings 6:5 But as one was felling a beam, the axe head fell into the water: and he cried, and said, Alas, master! for it was borrowed.
Good stuff, I've thought on these matters often. Thanks for taking time to write it down.
Have you read Richard Yerby?
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